Playing devils advocate here however, wouldn't the scripture be referring to those already anointed? In other words, the scripture is saying that the anointed don't need to be taught. that wouldn't apply then to the non anointed then in their eyes yes?
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Jan 2016 study WT attempt to keep control of professed anointed ones, brainwashing in action!
by EndofMysteries ina really great example of wt pulling doctrine out of their heiney that nowhere exists in the scriptures!
when i started waking up to ttatt, i remember in my own reading the tons of scriptures that speak of god, the holy spirit, etc teaching directly.
tons of scriptures that go against the wt doctrine of only able to learn through them.
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The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove
by Lee Elder inthe watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.
that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.
that they have a "free choice" in the matter.
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Personal responsibility is great. I'm all for it.
Convincing someone to not accept available medical treatment through horrifically implausible scriptural justification, and then enforcing that belief through a communal shunning program......is not the same thing as being responsible for your own decisions.
Smart people do dumb things all the time. Haven't you watched the political debates in the US?
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My mom passed away yesterday....
by minimus inthank you all for your sincere encouragement during these last few weeks.
finally, she is at peace.
i was with her , holding her hand when she died.
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I know we don't know each other bud, but my sincere condolences on the loss of your mother. -
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The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove
by Lee Elder inthe watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.
that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.
that they have a "free choice" in the matter.
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The Iron Fist in the Velvet Glove
by Lee Elder inthe watchtower and jehovah's witnesses are fond of saying there are no automatic sanctions for taking blood.
that they no longer disfellowship someone who takes blood.
that they have a "free choice" in the matter.
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The very definition of obfuscation and semantics.
Ask ANY JW out there if someone who willfully accepted a blood transfusion could remain a JW and the answer would be patently obvious to them. In the land of double talk however, some has "disassociated themselves" when they decide to do this particular act, but not the other things considered sins.
I wonder what the explanation for this designation would be scripturally speaking?
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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago
by Perry innone of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.
just found out this morning.
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Perry I am sorry for the loss of your mother. I am sure your faith gives you comfort, but it still always stings when the JW family slips into full shun mode.....even in such times.
Probably angering. Try to remember that they are in a cult.
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On the realization you will not "live forever"
by problemaddict 2 insomething struck me last week.
i have been dealing with what i can only describe as a fear of death.
i'm not old and not in bad health.
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Great comments everyone. I appreciate it. Everyones experience and coping (or lack thereof), is very interesting and different. But you can almost break up into two groups. One group is very matter of fact and accepting, the other sad/depressed/ or battling those thoughts as I described.
I wonder what that is, if it isn't just aspects of our personality.
I'm sure I'll struggle with this for a while. I had children late (they are very small still), and while I enjoy them, i will be old when they become their own men. That is sad to me. I would love to see my family grow, affect future generations, and the thought if being non existent is still a bit paralyzing. I'm sure I'll cope and find the right place to put it. Its still a basically new thought. I just hadn't ever perhaps reached down and figured out why it was there.
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How much fall-out can we expect?
by DATA-DOG inso the wtbts ( the gb and the branch, aka lawyers and puppet masters ) have decided to end "special pioneering" for some, if not all of the order.
there is no way to accurately predict the fall-out, but it's potentially huge!
jws, for the most part, are under educated, sheltered, unprepared, frightened humans.
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Serving in a foreign country and getting cheap rent or help has nothing to do with being a special pioneer. The local hall back home will just hear you are in Peru and assume its a big deal.
Surfing where the need was great.....we called it.
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On the realization you will not "live forever"
by problemaddict 2 insomething struck me last week.
i have been dealing with what i can only describe as a fear of death.
i'm not old and not in bad health.
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Something struck me last week. I have been dealing with what i can only describe as a fear of death. I'm not old and not in bad health. I'm approaching middle age I thought so maybe this is normal. But sometimes it gets to an unhealthy level, not just recognizing a feeling and analyzing it, but actual fear.
I was reading information about child development and body autonomy. I have two very small children,a nd how they develop and how i can encourage them is important to me. I read something that was fairly matter of fact, but really hit me.
The suggestion rather matter of factly was that right around the age of 8-9, children discover that their life will one day be no more. they may not have context to this, but it is a realization that they are living a one and only life so to speak. Clearly there are variations based on religion (your life changes into that of an angelic life for example), but essentially the life you know will end.
Then it hit me.......I never thought that. I assumed my life would never end. In fact, death was an enemy, not "real", and simply not even a possibility.
So the normal human behavior that comes with recognizing our limitations, finding joy in life while not being overcome by the inevitable.....simply was shuttered before it because ingrained.
I don't know why...but this was really an epiphany.
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What is the most bizarre counsel you received as a JW, from a JW?
by Funchback inthere were many addressed to me.
for example, i once had a sister tell me i was gambling because i liked playing skill crane (the machine where you have to try to pick up prizes like stuffed animals) at the arcade.
i then fired back a her: "you saw the r-rated movie 'backdraft.
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YES! Yes....keep these coming! The counsel is never ending. We have not yet begun to scratch the surface.
I had a girl that liked me in the hall. We went out (in a group). I didn't like her. I stopped paying her attention. the brothers counseled me for leaving "smouldering rubble of broken sisters in my wake". I think my face said it all.
I had a nice Calvin Klein suit. Not tight, but well tailored. It was a fantastic suit. One of "those" elders made some comment about it being fitted. Mind you he looked like a rapper in the 90's his clothes were so baggy. I leaned in and said...."brother......are you saying you were looking at my ass?" Nobody else heard. He was embarrassed. One of my finer moments.
Nipple is a little weird of a word. Kind of gross. Like "moist". Don't you hate saying or hearing the word moist?